Oh, come on Selkie, don't you think that's a little harsh? You have certainly had some extreme adventures - not everybody does as much as you do. I'm not saying he shouldn't of course. I just know from my point of view, I tend to be more people motivated. If the social aspect of a trip isn't working out or being fun, I probably wouldn't be motivated to stay. My favorite adventures happen with friends.
I've never been anywhere...no extreme adventures of that kind for me, and, as anyone who knows me will assert, I am definitely a people-motivated person...if I don't have people contact, I wilt. All of that being the case, however, I have to agree with her. It isn't the pushing on to Alaska that is the point. Indeed, what with the conditions, I suspect it may be the wiser choice *not* to push on but (and it's the biggest but I have ;-) I would still argue that staying out is a good idea, given the initial rationale for the trip, and given how time - and solitude - tend to help clear the brain.
The decision of course must be the one learnteach chooses for himself. I think that what both she, and I, and near as I can tell, practically everyone else, are suggesting is that he re-think the trip, and vary it to meet his needs (especially for interesting scenery and safer riding conditions!), rather than just discarding it altogether.
No. I don't think I am being harsh. I have listened and read what learnteach has had to say about his life and about what he thinks he needs. He has told me about which side of the plexiglass he wants to live on. He has talked about how he needs to get away.
If these things are true (and I recommend learnteach go back and read his journals, live and otherwise), then the very worst thing he can do is just to turn around and come back now; unless he is coming back to regroup and head out again.
I think many others have been listening and reading as well. Just look at the comments prior to the disco comment. These are all reminders to learnteach of what he said he wanted and needed.
I am not saying that he should go out and duplicate my experiences. Certainly, that would be a huge mistake. And besides, he's in the wrong part of the world to try at most of the ones I mentioned. On the other hand, I know that he admires some of the things I have done and I don't think he realizes that these things that I have done, the really worthwhile adventures that I have had, have come with some large amount of work, a good measure of perserverence, and a large dose of flexibility. They did not just happen because I walked out my door and decided to have an adventure.
They also did not happen without the help of others. While I do often travel by myself, I always meet people wherever I am at. I am a terribly social person. Meeting new people and interacting with them is the best way to learn, in my opinion. You learn about them, their lives, and how they are. And you learn about you, your life, and how you are. It is all about learning about new perspectives. Bingo. That's what learnteach was looking for and I'm not afraid to argue that maybe he should still be on a quest to gain it.
It occurs to me that you, garandman, Antonio and I had an adventure in downtown San Jose some three weeks ago. We wandered around, checked out hole in the wall restaurants, counted up shark statues, and checked out the stunning view at King Library. We even made sure that the men's and women's room had equal art.
So, there's an example of an adventure that was bourne of three people deciding to do something, yet nothing in particular. I don't know about you, but I had a lot of fun that day, even if it was an adventure in my own backyard. (:
That's exactly what I'm saying. See - with friends... Ok, so Antonio was a new friend, but the social part was working out well and I had a really great time. I'm not at all saying that you need a plan - I certainly don't most of the time - but you need some people who have time to have fun be flexible. Sure, I make new friends along the way. Also, I'm sure NOBODY thought that your adventures came easily - I certainly didn't assume that. If learnteach is feeling like coming home, having more local adventures or planning the next far adventure, I'm certainly not going to discourage him.
They can be. Unless staying local means that you can't see past the issues you are trying to gain perspective on. See my original comment to learnteach's original post. Sometimes you do actually need to move to a spot physically and mentally far enough away that you can see things in a new way. Hanging around here was not doing that for learnteach as he has stated some number of times.
Everything I am saying relates rather specifically to things he has told me or that I have read in his journal. Different people are different and I don't assume that what is good for me is good for him. But I have been paying attention and I know one or two things about getting out of ruts. These are the issues and thoughts I am trying to bring to light. I worry that if he loses his current momentum, it will take some time for him to get to the things he needs to get to. Those are not things that I define. These are things he has already defined. And maybe he has redefined them. But I do not know about that.
Again, all of these issues are for learnteach to take into consideration while making his own decisions. They are little nuggets of thought to ponder and that is all.
I give up. You obviously know him WAY better than me. No, I haven't been paying close attention, and I don't have a good enough memory if I had been. I was just going off things that I feel and things that are good from my own perspective. But I don't think he's been "hanging around here" for long since having more free time though. And I don't see him as a type of person who loses momentum - he always seems to have some. It doesn't take long before he's bored with sitting around and off to the next adventure.
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The decision of course must be the one
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Adventures come to you
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Quite a tempest in a teapot you've got brewing here, eh? :):):)
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If these things are true (and I recommend
I think many others have been listening and reading as well. Just look at the comments prior to the disco comment. These are all reminders to
I am not saying that he should go out and duplicate my experiences. Certainly, that would be a huge mistake. And besides, he's in the wrong part of the world to try at most of the ones I mentioned. On the other hand, I know that he admires some of the things I have done and I don't think he realizes that these things that I have done, the really worthwhile adventures that I have had, have come with some large amount of work, a good measure of perserverence, and a large dose of flexibility. They did not just happen because I walked out my door and decided to have an adventure.
They also did not happen without the help of others. While I do often travel by myself, I always meet people wherever I am at. I am a terribly social person. Meeting new people and interacting with them is the best way to learn, in my opinion. You learn about them, their lives, and how they are. And you learn about you, your life, and how you are. It is all about learning about new perspectives. Bingo. That's what
The choice, however, is his. It must be his.
Adventures need not be big
So, there's an example of an adventure that was bourne of three people deciding to do something, yet nothing in particular. I don't know about you, but I had a lot of fun that day, even if it was an adventure in my own backyard. (:
And they can be local....
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Everything I am saying relates rather specifically to things he has told me or that I have read in his journal. Different people are different and I don't assume that what is good for me is good for him. But I have been paying attention and I know one or two things about getting out of ruts. These are the issues and thoughts I am trying to bring to light. I worry that if he loses his current momentum, it will take some time for him to get to the things he needs to get to. Those are not things that I define. These are things he has already defined. And maybe he has redefined them. But I do not know about that.
Again, all of these issues are for
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