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James Tiberius Kirk...man, you gotta learn how to pick better fights, what is it, Napoleon complex? Fight with stepdad, fight in bar, fight with Romulans, fight on deck, saved by Pike, by Sulu, by...well, you lose the fights but win the war.

And that green chick? Totally hot!

Spock I for the win!

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... Kirk drops onto random moon, runs randomly, finds major character. They trek to nearest Federation Outpost. Finds major character. Suddenly realizes cave is the dreaded "CAVE OF INCREDIBLE COINCIDENCE!"

It was a good movie. But, once I figured out what they were doing, I started hoping they'd make it didn't happen. They just threw out their entire canon (except for Enterprise). I'm still boggled.

And Nero's Disproportionate Response reminds me of an old What's New panel. "But did you have to blow up the entire planet?" "Well, it was easier than finding the one guy who sold me this lousy watch."

On the other hand, apparently this new continuity includes starships that carry more than two shuttles apiece; that's a definite improvement.

I think they did exactly the right thing. I like the alternate universe bit (which I copped to right away, since it was obvious the romulans were from the future and nobody is supposed to have seen a Romulan before "Balance of Terror"). It's not that they've thrown out the whole cannon, it means that with a new cast they can go new places and do new things without screwing up the story line. So it's a little "Last Season was a Dream." So what? I think it was the best way they could honor the original series and do something new with the same characters.

Actually, the reboot corrects a lot of things....why was such a powerful ship not in fleet or escorted (It was damaged.) Why did Kirk get to keep it? (Pike pushed for him, it's an experiment, and the holding bin for all the misfits/halfbreeds/irritating kids. Look at them: womanizing brawler, mixed Race, wierdo LARPER (swords? You have got to be kidding!), Russian whizkid, engineering know-it-all..."Cupcake Losehispants and the Half Breed Half Baked Crew") Besides, the ship was damaged fairly severely, we've lost the majority of our acting captains, and now we can push an appropriations bill through and build a whole bunch of ships based on the knowledge that Spock the Elder brought back.

The movie producers walked a fine line between making a modern movie and keeping to the letter of the canon, and history, and I think came out ahead.

I'm just bemused by where they will go with the Holocaust/formation of Israel angle that was so strongly represented at the end of the movie. And I agree with Kate Elliot--it would have been nice if the women had actual roles, other than the shuttle officer. ("Sit. Down. Or I will Make you sit down.")

Still..they got all the characters in, flashing action, derring do, and even a reason why Spock would logically let Kirk lead: Kirk's Intuition proves more useful than cold logic. And that way, he doesn't have to fight Kirk. And he gets the catharsis of watching EVERYONE beat up James, and James keep smiling. All is right in the world!

Pity about the green chick, though, she was hot.

and build a whole bunch of ships based on the knowledge that Spock the Elder brought back.

I don't know if they'll pick up on that. Did you see the last episode of Voyager? There's a 20-year time jump that brings back armor that, 20 years in the future, makes a shuttle strong enough to ignore two Klingon warbirds. But we never see that armor again; there's never any hint that Janeway has just disrupted the balance of power.

cvirtue just saw the movie, and I just talked to her about it. She made the point that Paramount pretty much had to do a reboot, because they were getting too limited in how they could fit into the continuity. The first thing I thought of was that they could jump into the future again; but the armor problem means that they'd have trouble giving the Federation sufficient challenges.

The movie producers walked a fine line between making a modern movie and keeping to the letter of the canon

What? No, they didn't; they nuked the canon from orbit. They kept faithful to the characters.

Pity about the green chick, though, she was hot.

Yeah, that was a nice touch. They played the "Kirk makes out with an alien babe" trope, but it turns out she's just as promiscuous as he is.

It was obvious the attackers were from the future, but that didn't have to mean discarding the whole timeline—my first assumption was that it was going to turn out to be a misunderstanding.

The whole "nobody's seen a Romulan" bit wasn't really a problem at first, because nobody on the Kepler knew who the attackers were, or got a good luck at them (the comscreen was pretty distorted)—except for the captain, who never got a chance to report what he saw.

Once Spock and Pike start referring to the attackers as Romulans, though, it becomes clear that "Balance of Terror" is being ignored; nobody asks Spock, "How do you know they're Romulans?". It makes sense, after all; it's clear in the last season of Enterprise that the Vulcans have not forgotten their civil war.

Kirk's in command, the crew's the same, Pike's in a wheelchair...the center holds.

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Oh yes, there's the party game when the DVD comes out :-) ... Romulan Ale or Saurian Brandy ... or perhaps just civilized little sips of Traania?

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