Star Trek *spoilers*

[learnteach]

You have been warned!


James Tiberius Kirk...man, you gotta learn how to pick better fights, what is it, Napoleon complex? Fight with stepdad, fight in bar, fight with Romulans, fight on deck, saved by Pike, by Sulu, by...well, you lose the fights but win the war.

And that green chick? Totally hot!

Spock I for the win!

Comments

Re: Reboot

[learnteach.livejournal.com]

Actually, the reboot corrects a lot of things....why was such a powerful ship not in fleet or escorted (It was damaged.) Why did Kirk get to keep it? (Pike pushed for him, it's an experiment, and the holding bin for all the misfits/halfbreeds/irritating kids. Look at them: womanizing brawler, mixed Race, wierdo LARPER (swords? You have got to be kidding!), Russian whizkid, engineering know-it-all..."Cupcake Losehispants and the Half Breed Half Baked Crew") Besides, the ship was damaged fairly severely, we've lost the majority of our acting captains, and now we can push an appropriations bill through and build a whole bunch of ships based on the knowledge that Spock the Elder brought back.

The movie producers walked a fine line between making a modern movie and keeping to the letter of the canon, and history, and I think came out ahead.

I'm just bemused by where they will go with the Holocaust/formation of Israel angle that was so strongly represented at the end of the movie. And I agree with Kate Elliot--it would have been nice if the women had actual roles, other than the shuttle officer. ("Sit. Down. Or I will Make you sit down.")

Still..they got all the characters in, flashing action, derring do, and even a reason why Spock would logically let Kirk lead: Kirk's Intuition proves more useful than cold logic. And that way, he doesn't have to fight Kirk. And he gets the catharsis of watching EVERYONE beat up James, and James keep smiling. All is right in the world!

Pity about the green chick, though, she was hot.

Re: Reboot

[metageek.livejournal.com]

and build a whole bunch of ships based on the knowledge that Spock the Elder brought back.

I don't know if they'll pick up on that. Did you see the last episode of Voyager? There's a 20-year time jump that brings back armor that, 20 years in the future, makes a shuttle strong enough to ignore two Klingon warbirds. But we never see that armor again; there's never any hint that Janeway has just disrupted the balance of power.

cvirtue just saw the movie, and I just talked to her about it. She made the point that Paramount pretty much had to do a reboot, because they were getting too limited in how they could fit into the continuity. The first thing I thought of was that they could jump into the future again; but the armor problem means that they'd have trouble giving the Federation sufficient challenges.

The movie producers walked a fine line between making a modern movie and keeping to the letter of the canon

What? No, they didn't; they nuked the canon from orbit. They kept faithful to the characters.

Pity about the green chick, though, she was hot.

Yeah, that was a nice touch. They played the "Kirk makes out with an alien babe" trope, but it turns out she's just as promiscuous as he is.